April 4, 2008
I am forced to accept this, as I watch one perching arrogantly on the higher extended escape-proof bit of fence that we constructed. I carefully tip-toe in to talk it down, like the chicken whisperer.
I feel very foolish. ‘Can chickens fly?’ is one of those questions like ‘why are there seasons?’ and ‘how does electricity work?’. You sort of think you know the answer and that it is all simple, but once you try explaining it to people then you realise that you are getting a bit bogged down.
I am not too sure about the options. I really do not want to put a chicken wire roof on, as I suspect it will make what is at present quite a pleasant environment into something a bit guantanamobayey.
And then there is the issue of wing-clipping. I know all the books say that it is what you should do and it doesn’t hurt and it is just like having your toenails cut, but I have a small feeling that it is not like having your toenails cut at all, and more like having a leg removed under general anaesthetic. Essentially, shorter toenails would not change my life materially for better or worse, whereas I suspect that a reduction in leg quantity would.
Short Tony returns from his holidays today, and I have managed a whole week without something bad happening to any of them. None have got worms, I have not trodden on any of them, I have not rented any out to Max Mosley. And we still have a full complement, so even though they can escape in theory, they clearly choose not to.
‘I must do everything in my power to make it a happy environment for them,’ I thought this morning as I went out in my pants to let them out. I do not wish to be a benevolent gaoler; I wish them to stay of their own accord.
April 4, 2008 at 8:05 am
Reducing your leg quantity might make you Short Jonny.
April 4, 2008 at 8:06 am
Or:
Reducing your leg quantity might make you short, Jonny.
April 4, 2008 at 8:40 am
I propose that you put a chicken wire roof on, but you get the neighbourhood kids to cut out and colour in some pictures of smiling people, clouds, anthropomorphic turnips and friendly penguins. Then you can affix these to the roof, and the chickens will be happy.
April 4, 2008 at 9:05 am
Don’t be such a Townie wuss!…Clip one wing, and be done with it. Other people have been succesfully retaining their chickens for thousands of years…Why try and break the mold in week 1?
Besides, chickens are dim creatures, so if you put a wire roof on, I bet they’d spend all their time flying into it, like a bee on the double glazing.
April 4, 2008 at 9:29 am
You need to remember one thing: chickens are very, very stupid. This is a fact borne out by history: a chicken has never held a responsible position in any field (not even politics).
If you want to make them really happy, hang a cabbage from a string in the run.
April 4, 2008 at 9:58 am
Music: how about a bit of Bach? Failing that get the banjo out. Oh it’s going to be a chicken Nirvana I can feel it.
April 4, 2008 at 10:19 am
Chicken Nirvana sounds like a meal that includes a wine-flavoured source, whole baby mushrooms, sliced peppers, new potatoes, broccoli, carrots and, erm, steamed chicken….
And I’m a veggie, ffs!
April 4, 2008 at 10:39 am
you let your pants out?
April 4, 2008 at 10:53 am
Chickens can FLY?????
G.I.M x
April 4, 2008 at 12:24 pm
Hullo Jonny,
Praps they are making a break for it to go on a pilgramage to the holy chicken mecca of Norfolkshire: Chicken Roundabout.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/belowred/344194298/in/pool-normalfornorfolk/
April 4, 2008 at 12:34 pm
Whether you decide to clip their wing feathers (don’t cut the wings off, that’d be cruel) depends on whether you mind the chickens being loose in your garden. It’s very entertaining to watch them scratching in the flower beds - they scrape at the earth, then step back and peer to see what they’ve unearthed - but they do destroy choice plants. If you do clip them (sorry to be sensible and not funny), it’s easy to pick them up when they’ve gone to roost, then you can clip the long feathers and put them down again and they won’t flutter.
I trust Lucidity Heights isn’t making fun of Chicken Roundabout - those of us who live nearby are very proud of it. It’s one of the landmarks of South Norfolk.
April 4, 2008 at 12:35 pm
Hey Jonny.
Today you went out in your pants…what did you wear yesterday? And do you have a wardrobe laid out for the rest of the week?
April 4, 2008 at 12:43 pm
Oh contraire Z! I hail from the mighty Beccles so would not besmirch the roundabout.
I heard that during the bird flu debacle, the Roundabout chickens were removed in the night and exterminated like some sort of aquiline desaparecidos.
Bernard Matthews….bootiful my hoop!
April 4, 2008 at 12:44 pm
So you’re assuming these chickens are slightly desperate little voyeurs who will not only not be frightened at the sight of their Lord and Master all but in the nuddy they will consider a pants-clad owner first thing in the morning to be conducive to a happy environment? You really did get the low-rent chickens didn’t you.
April 4, 2008 at 2:21 pm
I have only just discovered this site and am finding it so informative. Who would know that so many bloggers/blog readers would also be chicken experts?
I have given it much thought and I think the answer to the whole wing-clipping dilemma will be found in answering the following question:
Would that be Boxer Shorts or Y Fronts?
Julesritter.com
April 4, 2008 at 2:23 pm
I’m waiting for Jonny to appear on TV as the Chicken Whisperer. If he can come up with the right words he may be able to teach everyone how to prevent their chickens from escaping without having to clip their wings or put a netting roof over their pen.
April 4, 2008 at 3:45 pm
“I have not rented any out to Max Mosley”
Perhaps you could ask Max over to tie a few of them up - that way you will not have to go about the grisly business of wing amputation.
April 4, 2008 at 4:00 pm
Those chickens are going to eat you for lunch.
April 4, 2008 at 4:15 pm
Watch out, Jonny; haven’t you heard of flying foxes? They might get in through the non-roof.
April 4, 2008 at 4:33 pm
Lucidity Heights, that’s no chicken.
That’s a rooster!
April 4, 2008 at 4:37 pm
…or not.
Looking closer, I think I’m wrong.
Sorry all - move along please - nothing to see here.
April 4, 2008 at 5:03 pm
Four feathers on one wing! That is all it takes, then they fly at low level round in circles!
April 4, 2008 at 5:56 pm
You have me laughing! And I hope that “guantanamobayey” will one day be a widely used adjective.
April 4, 2008 at 8:07 pm
Guantanamo Bay is a pleasant environment, Jonny, and I’ll thank you not to imply otherwise. Many more posts to the contrary and you’ll wake up with your head in a bag, en route to finding out in person…
April 4, 2008 at 8:33 pm
Sorry Ivan. Didn’t mean to cause offence to you lot, etc…
Hullo Dean and Jules and blackpittsjames and clarissa and welcome. This diary is a bit chickeney at the moment.
Short Tony is home!!! I shall consult with him on the morrow about flying etc.
And they were pants. Just pants.
April 4, 2008 at 9:04 pm
I don’t think they fly per se. I think they sort of flap a lot and flutter but don’t get much height (above extended fences… )
They don’t really have the intelligence to work out why they’d wish to fly out of your chicken utopia either… perhaps they’re focussed on a reclaimed door with a letterbox. That could be a reason to try to fly I suppose.
April 4, 2008 at 10:19 pm
Ooh, Beccles - we’d almost be neighbours if we weren’t in different counties, Lucidity Heights. The chickens being exterminated during the bird flu scare was only a rumour - they are classified as wild birds, so aren’t subject to the restrictions domestic chooks are.
Most of them are cocks, actually. We think that people dump their spare ones there.
JonnyB, we have baby chicks hatching out in our garden This Very Minute.
April 4, 2008 at 10:29 pm
It alarms me a little that “going out wearing pants” is something you now feel the need to explicitly indicate.
April 5, 2008 at 12:18 am
What you do is feed them until they are too fat to fly.
Then you eat them.
April 5, 2008 at 8:18 am
It’s simple!
Put a ring around each chicken’s neck and attach it to a long lead staked into the ground.
Then they can fly about in circles to their little hearts’ content, without you getting in a flap about them escaping.
I’ve seen pictures of cock rings on the internet and only just realised what they’re actually for.
April 5, 2008 at 8:54 am
Sablonneuse,
who’s your money on to play Jonny?
April 5, 2008 at 12:05 pm
I would guess Redford, or Clooney, or somebody.
Cock rings!!! Haha!
April 6, 2008 at 8:36 am
I’d go with a wire roof, myself. Foxes can climb.
I have no comment about the pants situation.
April 6, 2008 at 10:24 am
The other day I heard Clooney described as being one of those American actors who make acting look effortless. I fear that Clooney may not be able to inject the necessary elements of bemused resignation into a JonnyB characterisation. I suspect you may be looking at a Carrey or you could get away with a Cage. Yes, Cage. Nicolas Cage plays JonnyB in “Raising Chickens”.
Failing that, Stephen Fry.
April 6, 2008 at 11:07 am
Ahh. Thanks for a lovely weekend imagining you being dive bombed by flying chickens in your pants (you in your pants of course, not the chickens. That would be weird). Just be careful they don’t start dropping eggs on your head. Some sort of protective headgear might be in order…
April 6, 2008 at 11:25 am
Yay - JonnyB, I come back here after a couple of months away, and hey looky looky here, you are keeping chickens like wot I am (since 23 February). I too built a run (am still improving upon it but, as someone else has said, tweaking your chicken run is the new sex), and one of my two hens laid her first egg on Easter Day - a real Easter egg!
Everything I know about poultry-keeping I learned from the Omlet forum - I have an eglu, too - come and join us and let us help you name your chickens.
I am already planning to buy two more hens, so that I can have blue eggs.
And here is a present for the 21st century poultry-keeper, an egg skelter, hand-made by an Omleteer.
April 6, 2008 at 4:30 pm
What Tim # 30 said—–sounds like an interesting way to reuse an old product. Rather green, actually in a recycle, reuse kind of way.
April 6, 2008 at 6:14 pm
Don’t know about the chickens but if I saw you in your underpants I would definitely not want to stay of my mine own accord!
April 6, 2008 at 6:59 pm
Hell , I didn’t know I was supposed to dress to go see to the birds….
Where’s the ballgown with the rinestones, and the basque…?
April 6, 2008 at 7:01 pm
And you DO need a skelter!!, So I can get a new set of stay-ups, strictly for warmth on these cold mornings!!
April 7, 2008 at 12:54 am
12V electric wire at top of fence.
Don’t forget the polite notice informing them of the danger.
April 7, 2008 at 7:36 am
Hullo Freddie and welcome (and welcome back, Indigo!!!)
I shall definitely examine this egg skelter thing. Is it a gadget? I am not very good at gadgets. I may need to get some help by writing to the bloke that does the gadget column in the Guardian. He will know about it.
April 7, 2008 at 8:50 am
JonnyB, this egg skelter thing. Is it a gadget?
Yes, An Unusual And Cleverly Designed Device for the Stylish Ordering of Eggs
April 7, 2008 at 3:43 pm
Jonny: have you seen Redford lately?
April 7, 2008 at 4:43 pm
It is okay to clip wings.
It will not hurt them. I have clipped both chicken and parrot wings in my time, and they were still cheery.
Also, you then will be able to think of something clever and resourceful to do with the wing clippings.
Wing clippings is definitely a term.
April 7, 2008 at 7:39 pm
I’ve never owned a chicken or fowl of any kind but Tim’s suggestion just doesn’t seem right to me.
Did make me laugh out loud though.
Enough with the wing clipping discussion, when will they lay their first eggs?
Shall we all place our bets?
April 8, 2008 at 6:57 am
Did you know that you can change the color of the shells of the eggs hens lay by their diet? I can’t remember how now but I read it in a Martha Stewart magazine. She had some lovely greenish eggs from her hens. I’m sure if I put in a good word for you, she would be happy to give you advice. Do you know who Martha Stewart is, by the way? She’s huge in America-something I’m sure you will be one day in your part of England once your chicken franchise becomes world famous.
April 8, 2008 at 9:52 am
Wing clipping - easy and it doesn’t hurt. Honest. I live not a million miles from you Jonny, should I pop round?
April 8, 2008 at 2:39 pm
Martha Stewart - wasn’t she in clink? we need Jonny alive and well and living in Norfolk!
April 8, 2008 at 7:00 pm
If dem there chickens fly, you’d better wear more than just pants ’cause when de chicken poo starts to fly…
April 8, 2008 at 7:01 pm
If dem there chickens fly, you’d better wear more than just pants ’cause when de chicken poo drops from de sky…
April 8, 2008 at 7:02 pm
argh, that was supposed to be de 2nd comment…darn wordpress…
April 8, 2008 at 9:11 pm
I would SO watch The Chicken Whisperer. Redford in his pants, talking to chickens: something to think about! Keep us posted. Marianne
April 9, 2008 at 8:58 am
Hullo Hot Toast and welcome. Stalker!!! Stalker!!!
I have been away for a couple of days so am just off into their area to count them. I also want to know WHERE ARE MY EGGS????
April 9, 2008 at 7:32 pm
Okay it’s been five days now and I am dying for my chicken fix. All I get is another look at that typo in the first line…Surely something must be happening up there? Julesritter.com
April 10, 2008 at 12:29 am
SORRY - I was making a cake.
April 10, 2008 at 7:11 am
Nobody mentioned about the typo!!! I NEVER do typos!!! Or at least not often. It is humiliating.
April 10, 2008 at 8:17 am
That’s the kind of girl I am, the others are yourfriends. Talking of which, since I have done you a favour how about going over to my site and leaving a comment? Or we can play spot the typo/grammatical error? You owe me one chicken boy.
Julesritter.com
April 10, 2008 at 2:44 pm
Jules : do you know what you are asking? The earth has to move first.
Typos aren’t so shame making as posting a You tube which then refuses to work. I’m covered in honte.
April 10, 2008 at 9:08 pm
I was going to mention ‘FORCD’ but I thought it was something like ect. Or dogg.
And three comments in a row do not a stalker make. [Huff]. Oh, I see, you were referring to Hot Toast. Phew.
April 11, 2008 at 11:38 am
What typo in the first line? Am I just being blind?
April 11, 2008 at 12:37 pm
He’s done it Lucy. That’s it for this week then an “e”.
Pat: Well I can tell from my stats that “he” (CB) came over to have a look but then fled. Feel like I’ve had a one night stand, you know that morning after feeling ….
You are not the only one covered in honte but then it is better than chicken shit!
Julesritter.com
April 11, 2008 at 1:11 pm
Jonny! Where be ye?
April 11, 2008 at 1:34 pm
The chickens have got ‘im, JoAnne. I warned him he would be no match for their feral strength and low cunning, but he wouldn’t listen to me.
Now he’s tied up behind a reclaimed door, with an egg chute stuffed up his arse. A sad day for primates everywhere. That man is a waste of his opposable thumbs…
April 11, 2008 at 1:50 pm
Jules: how can you tell it is he? There are lots of folk from Norfolk and if it is his site, it could be any one of the commenters. I’m not being clever - as anyone will tell you - I know nothing.
I did once have a helpful comment from him.
April 11, 2008 at 4:09 pm
Pat, CB refers to Chicken Boy.
I have no interest in whether or not he is a celebrity, as some think he is, I just want my chicken news. I fear and part of me, if I am being completely honest, hopes, that Ivan the Terrible’s prophecy comes true…. Blog writers have obligations you know.
Julesritter.com
April 11, 2008 at 8:57 pm
I think the chickens are holding him hostage until Short Tony installs a new door with a letter box and working door bell.
Long live poultry.
April 12, 2008 at 2:10 pm
You’ve lost that lovin’ feeling.
Oh oh that lovin’ feeling!
April 12, 2008 at 6:28 pm
Those chickens are taking up entirely too much of your time. Eat them all now…
April 13, 2008 at 1:11 pm
Don’t fret. The long suffering LTLP has him tagged.
I understand a further Tracker Device may have been secreted about his Person by - The Chickens Who Can Fly. Which is very useful for those JBAWOL moments.
Not sure if either work under the influence of alcohol though.
April 14, 2008 at 10:03 am
Calm down!!! I don’t know which are more needy - the chickens or you lot.
On reflection it is probably the chickens, as I don’t have to give you food and water and put you to bed at night and stuff.
April 18, 2008 at 2:29 pm
sorry about dropping off the radar…. been at the paintbrush, and have done far more than is sensible, but, my, the hovel now is looking lovely and smelling sweet….