April 16, 2008
Chicken keeping is a fickle mistress.
One minute there are six happy and well chickens. The next minute, one becomes very out of sorts, and Short Tony is forced to dip his finger in olive oil in order to stick it up its jacksy.
“I’ve done the olive-oiled finger thing,” he tells me. I swear that there is an aggrieved tone in his voice, if it is possible to have an aggrieved tone in his voice via SMS message. Clearly, I have picked a good time to visit my parents for the day.
We have a short telephone conversation, mainly about the process and results of him having to stick his finger up its jacksy. My mother and father look on, oddly. “Are you SURE you didn’t try to have sex with it?” asks Short Tony. I look around the living room, and decide that it is best just to reply with a ‘no’.
Booooooo - there is a chicken with chicken problems. We were all excited the previous night, as we thought that it was about to lay an egg. It was sitting down a lot, and then sort of bouncing awkwardly on both legs, as if it were on an invisible chicken spacehopper that was ever so slightly too big for it. However, no egg appeared and now it does not seem to be able to stand or move at all.
“I’ll give Len the Fish a ring,” sighs Short Tony. Len the Fish knows all about farming stuff. He turns up later on, out of the goodness of his heart. Short Tony passes him the olive oil.
There is apparently a condition called an ‘Egg Bound Hen’ which is very rare and unlikely to happen, but involves the egg getting stuck on the way out. Clearly its rarity works proportionately to the fuckwitteddom of the person to which the chicken belongs. I try to envisage what the symptoms would be if I had an egg stuck on the way out, using role play, and it seems to fit the chicken’s behaviour.
I receive another communication. There is definitely no egg up there. I get some advice to feed it some olive oil. Short Tony feeds it some olive oil. Different olive oil.
We are a bit stumped now. The chicken is in the emergency isolation ward (Short Tony’s conservatory) and has been given a hot bath and stuff. It does not seem to be able to walkat all, but also does not seem to be particularly distressed; its eyes are bright and it is pecking at food. I do not think that it is just a lazy chicken, though. Perhaps it has had some form of stroke. It is not bird flu. Poor chicken. Can anybody help?
April 16, 2008 at 8:26 am
Fowl developments at Chez Jonny, o my!
April 16, 2008 at 8:28 am
And just to head one particular thread off at the pass: no - it wasn’t ‘Eggstra Virgin’.
April 16, 2008 at 8:28 am
Might be an answer here, Jonny. Have to say that most enquiries regarding chicken illness regard culling as a cure.
April 16, 2008 at 8:49 am
Hm. That looks familiar.
I like the answer on that thread from the person who doesn’t know anything about chickens, but has answered anyway, just to be nice.
April 16, 2008 at 8:53 am
You would wouldn’t you? I have just written a blog about you and how although you write about CHICKENS it is some of the best writing on the net - Guardian’s top 50 etc. etc. and over they will come in droves to read lines such as “stick it up its jacksy” “fuckwitteddom” and an implication of animal buggery!
I have just committed the equivalent of blogger’s suicide.
Jules
April 16, 2008 at 8:56 am
But she was going to pray, which is very sweet. The fun one could have with Yahoo Answers by just being thoroughly inappropriate.
April 16, 2008 at 9:19 am
Lots of fruit fibre, and a jog around the cricket pitch should sort it. Jonny B and a chicken, running around a cricket pitch - now there’s an image..
April 16, 2008 at 10:02 am
maybe it’s taking part in a sit down protest against tibet, iraq or post office closures
April 16, 2008 at 10:50 am
You think you’ve got problems - there’s a chicken-owning bloke in Somerset whose chickens have just landed him with an ASBO! http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2008/apr/16/ukcrime Is this the future for you and Short Tony?
April 16, 2008 at 11:14 am
Maybe you just have a chicken that has a pencant for having blokes stick their finger up its arse?………..I had a girlfrind like that once…….
April 16, 2008 at 11:27 am
Might I just ask something ? Does Jacksy refer to front or back and which one does the egg emerge from? Sorry to seem so ignorant but I’ve never really thought about it before.
I really hope that Short Tony wore gloves.
April 16, 2008 at 11:36 am
If the the fuckwitteddom of the person to whom the chicken belongs is truly the deciding factor, you’d better go buy a barrel of olive oil. And get some thinner fingers.
April 16, 2008 at 11:48 am
Short Tony asks “Are you SURE you didn’t try to have sex with it?” and you answered “No”.
As in, “No, I am not sure that I didn’t try to have sex with it” ???????????
I think we now know the culprit.
April 16, 2008 at 12:23 pm
Have they been vaccinated? Often in the weeks after they are vaccinated - and generally before they start laying - they are a bit out of sorts. You may remember Andre’s 40th birthday party where I gave him an egg from Basil the narcoleptic hen. It turns out that Basil wasn’t narcoleptic. She was falling asleep a lot because one of her vaccinations was making her feel a bit viral.
To eliminate any digestive cause, feed her a little quantity of her normal chicken food with some good acidophilus yoghurt mixed in - it will help balance her gut.
Or she may be broody - is she a bit aggressive, pecking at people and such?
The bad news and good news all rolled into one is that if she really is sick she’ll die in a couple of days, so you’ll know your answer. If she’s still alive on the weekend she’s probably OK.
(And just to help Pat, chickens only have one hole. It’s called a vent and it’s their multi-purpose orifice. Clever design that.)
April 16, 2008 at 12:28 pm
Clever design that.
I think you can take economising too far.
April 16, 2008 at 12:30 pm
I don’t know if this will help but…my mamma’s always telling me that when she was a young girl and the chickens all got sick - looking as though they had the flu, could hardly walk - her mother would feed the chickens [in their mouths] a teaspoonful of coconut oil with a sprinkle of salt and crushed garlic.
In no time at all, the chickens were up and about.
Olive oil, coconut oil…same difference.
April 16, 2008 at 12:32 pm
Some useful info here: http://www.omlet.co.uk/guide/guide.php?view=Chickens&cat=Chicken%20Health
Also you can buy some Citricidal from them, which is an organic antibiotic, made from grapefruit seeds. (I don’t know if grapefruit seeds fed directly to the chicken will have an impact.)
April 16, 2008 at 1:59 pm
Pat!!!
Front or back?
Did your parents never have “that” talk with you?
April 16, 2008 at 2:07 pm
Hm (again).
Hullo Clunky and welcome. Perhaps she could help? Could you send me her phone number?
Sheppitsgirl - no, that is not it. The same sort of waddling thing never happened to my other girlfriends (at least not after).
Everyone else: it seems neurological or muscular. If that helps. Otherwise, she is reasonably happy.
April 16, 2008 at 2:10 pm
Damian: thank you so much. I’m almost speechless. I can’t believe I have lived the life I’ve led and not known that. And we had an incubator in my brother’s bedroom. It was so wonderful to see the baby chickens pop out of the eggs.
AndyB: it was birds and bees - never chickens. I bet I’m not the only one who didn’t know that.
April 16, 2008 at 2:47 pm
I notice there was still no denial. In fact, an admission!!! “Other girlfriends” indeed!!
April 16, 2008 at 3:55 pm
Perhaps there is an egg up there, it’s just stuck too far up for your fingers to reach.
What you really need to do here is stick you whole hand up there, up to about the wrist. Fist the chicken, basically.
April 16, 2008 at 4:18 pm
I think if you posted a video of your “role play” it would really help diagnose the problem.
April 16, 2008 at 4:21 pm
Hamish, wasn’t that in that film by George Orwell. I seem to remember seeing it at school.
April 16, 2008 at 5:13 pm
She sounds like every chicken I’ve ever had and her behaviour is perfectly normal. Mind, the only two chickens I’ve had were luridly coloured plastic and did their bobbly dance on a spring. Have you checked her for springs?
April 16, 2008 at 6:16 pm
Just eat her. And then if you and Short Tony are ill you’ll know there was something wrong (rather than her just being too lazy to walk around on her delicious chicken legs…
Go on. You know you want to.
April 16, 2008 at 6:58 pm
Are you sure it’s not a rooster?
April 16, 2008 at 7:35 pm
mb….it may well be a protest against Iraq / Tibet / Whatever, but definitely not against Post Office closures. The poor thing hasn’t got a letterbox, so even an abundance of Post Offices in Jonny’s village would not make any difference.
Has the toddler fed them anything “on the sly”?
April 16, 2008 at 7:47 pm
Sigh…
It is still completely immobile. Sitting in a box. It looks like a perfectly healthy chicken in a box. But it can’t DO anything.
April 16, 2008 at 8:22 pm
I’m very worried about said chicken.
I don’t actually believe that eggs come from arses. Surely there are special ovipository err holes for them to come through?
I would have to take chicken to the vet. Expensive yes but worth it before you get a whole err flock of chicken sitting. Without legs.
(and I’d have bonded to that sick chicken in a freaky way… *sigh*)
April 16, 2008 at 10:53 pm
Sooz: no actually. They just have the one. Damian says so. Not very hygienic is it?
April 16, 2008 at 11:36 pm
Jonny, you said chicken in a box, but are you absolutely sure you didn’t mean chicken in a basket. If the latter, then it is meant to be more or less motionless.
April 17, 2008 at 1:00 am
Polite Notice - The Venting Machine Is Out Of Order.
My Free Range Eggs frequently show signs of point of origin. It’s a sort of trademark I believe.
Chicken soup is always good when you’re ill. Try giving her some with a straw.
April 17, 2008 at 1:04 am
Well, I am not going to pretend I knew.
Damian, you mean…the same place the egg comes out from, the same place the poo………..?
Oh.
And that’s where Short Tony………….?
Ew.
So that’s why eggs have chicken poo on them? Eggs with the shell on, I mean.
April 17, 2008 at 1:11 am
Time to make chicken stew, I think.
April 17, 2008 at 3:02 am
well if the chicken was already given a bath, then i suppose it needs another one, except with hotter water
April 17, 2008 at 6:05 am
If it should, heaven forbid, die, there is an interesting pet cemetary on the outskirts of Paris and I actually saw a grave there for Coquette, “a chicken who was a good friend for 20 years”. I don’t know if you have had your chicken long enough to call it a friend however. Have you even named it?
April 17, 2008 at 8:13 am
I do hope it’s not a Sexually-Transmitted Disease.
I know nothing about chickens.
I shall pray for you both.
April 17, 2008 at 8:19 am
I think the first rule of something or other is ‘never criticise your audience’. So there is some very good and interesting stuff here - but NOTHING VERY BLOODY HELPFUL.
It is clucking away happily. As I would be, if I just had to sit in a straw lined box and have food and drink brought to me all the time.
April 17, 2008 at 9:10 am
Perhaps it’s just sat there defensively, in the hope that no-one else sticks their finger up it’s ……..
April 17, 2008 at 9:43 am
Have you been to the vet yet, Jonny?
April 17, 2008 at 9:53 am
She knows if she sits there in her four-star, all-inclusive straw-lined box long enough some man will come along and stick another well-oiled digit up her… vent. And they say chickens are stupid.
April 17, 2008 at 9:55 am
JonnyB,
….and have food and drink brought to me all the time…..and allowed out for the occasional foray behind the Vegetable Delivery Man’s Van with, as you revealed on my blog, Renee Zellweger….who actually, when you think of it looks very chicken-like.
He doesn’t need the vet he needs the Doctor.
Julesritter.com
April 17, 2008 at 11:05 am
Maybe you could read it Chicken Soup for the Soul? I doubt it’s ever worked on humans but you never know it may have missed it’s calling as a chicken health guide book.
April 17, 2008 at 11:24 am
I assume that Short Tony was using his ring finger?
April 17, 2008 at 11:41 am
Some more “nothing helpful but you might be interested”. About chicken poop, if you look at your average chicken turd you will notice it is white with a darker center type of deal. The white part is the chicken equivelant of pee. The dark part is the actual poop. I just mention this incase you are at a coctail party and the conversation is slowing down and you need something to say.
April 17, 2008 at 1:32 pm
Daryl,Cock-tail and if you want to clear the room, mention the vent.
Sarah P. That Chicken Soup guy has made millions I saw him on THE SECRET DVD - it is ONLY being read to chickens (that is his secret!).
Still perturbed about JonnyB’s animal lust. There is no photograph of JonnyB anywhere on this site is he in fact a Chicken!!The Cock of the North? I have a picture of a naked chicken on my site he might be interested in.
Julesritter.com
April 17, 2008 at 1:33 pm
Erm…silly question but there is nothing wrong with her legs or any sores on her feet things.
April 17, 2008 at 2:31 pm
Jules Ritter - I always new there was something odd about that Chicken Soup book, now I know, thank you. Maybe Jamie Oliver and co can read it to all the battery farm chickens they free as a form of therapy!
April 17, 2008 at 3:23 pm
I can’t believe you are expecting any actually helpful information from your dear readers. We sit in front of computers reading not only blogs, but comments on blogs, for chrissakes!
April 17, 2008 at 3:48 pm
This chicken is too comfortable. Shake him from his lethargy by choking the chicken. Yes, choke that chiken! Then fist the chicken! Choke and fist! Choke and fist!
April 17, 2008 at 4:14 pm
This might help. Common poultry diseases: http://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/ps044
I had a quick read through for the potential symptoms and have concluded that your hen is suffering from:
- Newcastle Disease
- Mycoplasma Synoviae
- Marek’s Disease
- Equine Encephalitis
- Avian Encephalomyelitis
- Infections Tenosynovitis
I’m not normally the praying kind, but I’ve just said a little prayer for your hen!
April 17, 2008 at 4:14 pm
Of course you could just creep up behind her and shout “Boo!!”
April 17, 2008 at 4:43 pm
First off - Hamish, you made me have a tiny accident. Naughty man!
Second off…forgive me, but I don’t remember if you mentioned whether you’d sequestered the bird, Jonny. I know she’s in a box but where is the box?
Don’t want to see other chickens flopping about, after all.
And friends, if one must stick a finger up a chicken’s bum, I know it’s polite to oil the finger for the chicken’s comfort…but one COULD put on a latex glove and oil THAT just as easily. Did this not occur to you EVER, Jonny?
April 17, 2008 at 6:07 pm
Hamish - if the chicken was a ‘him’ he’d be a cock.
April 17, 2008 at 6:31 pm
You could do worse than totter over to the Omlet forum, to the Chicken Clinic bit, and search on “egg bound” and “lameness” etc.
From the very little information you have given us (!), it might be not enough grit in the hen’s diet.
April 17, 2008 at 9:29 pm
Ah - yes - the omlet forum was brilliant. I think she was OK for grit, as she ate chicken feed with it in, had extra grit, and free-ranged in a large area so there is loads of natural stuff around also.
Past tense, I’m afraid.
April 17, 2008 at 11:04 pm
Nooooo- it died! So sorry. Will you bury it?
April 18, 2008 at 7:32 am
So sad. Would you like me to conduct the burial service, or are you going for cremation?
April 18, 2008 at 9:20 am
Very unfortunate indeed. This is something you will have to get used to but the first one is always the worst. You did your best.
April 18, 2008 at 10:45 am
As they say where I come from, sorry for your trouble.
April 18, 2008 at 10:51 am
When is the public enquiry?
April 18, 2008 at 12:43 pm
Gah.
(I think that’s what the “yoof” say under such circumstances?)
April 18, 2008 at 1:14 pm
Sorry to hear about your chook, JonnyB. At least she had had a nice life. Please don’t let this knock your self-confidence, with respect to chook-keeping.
April 18, 2008 at 1:28 pm
It was the Duke of fuggin’ Edinburgh
April 18, 2008 at 2:08 pm
Bah.
Thank you, esp Mr Al-Fayed. Sorry about your son an’ that. Give my regards to the editor of the Express.
April 18, 2008 at 2:48 pm
Cheer up there is always Renée zellweger.
PS How is Short Tony taking it?
April 18, 2008 at 3:20 pm
Still, on the bright side, that’s Sunday sorted.
April 18, 2008 at 5:33 pm
It’s pining for the fjords…
Sorry Jonny. Must be a difficult time…
April 18, 2008 at 9:31 pm
Dear Jonny,
I am so very sorry as it seems you have had the most foul day. My condolences on the loss of Chicken # Four.
April 18, 2008 at 10:53 pm
I do hope it isn’t as painful as losing a dog. Don’t be too sad; you did the best you could.
April 19, 2008 at 12:14 am
Oh dear. Sorry to hear that chook.
Did you have to put her out of her misery?
“Short Tony places his long heavy Ace into my unsteady hand. I close my eyes and think of the wood pile. There is a loud swishing of air followed quickly by, the scream of a Short Tony”
April 19, 2008 at 2:47 am
aww, sorry about the chicken.
if it died within two weeks of you purchasing it from the chicken lady, shouldn’t you be eligible for a refund of some kind or a replacement chicken, say one that’s not ill?
April 19, 2008 at 11:23 am
chicken #4? was that it’s name or are you counting them down?
April 19, 2008 at 8:41 pm
oh no. Bad luck, Jonny.
You and Short Tony’s finger tried your best.
April 20, 2008 at 9:09 pm
I am greatly saddened. The demise of Chicken Four is announced in the thread after this one. Although termed as being an Epitaph, no epitaph is provided. Nor is the ability allowed for your readership to add theirs.
Everything deserves a proper epitaph. Yes, even a chicken. If this one had not yet given service to you, who knows what secret hopes, ambitions and trust she had that one day she would achieve just that and present you with a truly golden sunny side up of a breakfast? She might well have been the Barak Obama of chickens.
Perhaps you thought we would be disrespectful in our comments? Perhaps you thought we would not share your grief and try and help you achieve closure? Please do not under-rate our concern for you, for chickens and for the commonwealth of human compassion for each other.
Besides, it saved you wringing its neck.
So please write a decent epitaph for the poor ex-chicken.
April 20, 2008 at 10:37 pm
“Here lie the bones of Chicken 4 - died just in time for a weekend roast….”
/gets coat, leaves quietly - thinking of chestnut stuffing & yorkshire pudding….
April 21, 2008 at 9:49 am
Keith [comment 76] has said it all for me.
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